The other night, a guildie of mine accepted an invite to tank a PuG TOC25.
He was one of the first invitees to the PuG group, and was clear with the raid leader that his tank spec was his only spec, he did not have a dps spec or gear.
Somehow the group filled up with too many tanks and the raid leader asked him to switch to his dps spec, at which point my guildie explained (again) that he didn’t have a dps spec, that he’d signed up as tank, and that he specified when invited that he could only tank, as he had no second spec that was suitable (I believe he has a pvp tailored spec as his second spec).
Now three other guildies of ours were also in the PuG group. None of them protested or left the group, which made the tank in question very sad. He came to me and asked if it was too much to ask for a little loyalty from guildies in PuGs. The instance hadn’t started yet, so nobody would have been losing their weekly lockout by sticking up for him. He stated that he has, on other occasions, quit a PuG in protest over the unjustified kicking of another guildie. He felt upset that nobody else was willing to stand up for him.
My immediate reaction was that, yes, he was expecting too much. I didn’t expect other guildies to leave a PuG raid because one member of the guild got kicked. It wasn’t a PuG led by someone in the guild, or a close friend of a guildie, so what would protesting do? It would just mean that nobody from our guild would get to PuG that instance today.
Then I thought about it some more, and I realized I’d done something similar myself before. It was an Ony25 group put together by one of my guildies, who (on request) made one of the healers raid assist so that they could invite some more healers, and the new assist started kicking people. One of the people that got kicked was a guildie of ours… a somewhat, but not distressingly, undergeared DK. I had run Ony before, but only 10, not 25, so I was hesitant to stay in a PuG that had a ruthless kicker at the helm… someone who would kick with no explanation or prelude over a slight gear issue. So I dropped group, and when they whispered me to come back I told them that I’d changed my mind because they kicked my guildie unnecessarily. I think, looking back, that I was partly motivated by self preservation, partly by loyalty. But I don’t think I would expect the same from other people, would I?
And then I thought some more about it, and I realized that I wouldn’t think twice about dropping group in a 5 man if someone kicked my guildie. I don’t care what reason they had for kicking a guildie, unless they were massively misbehaving, that group would find themselves without a healer in a matter of heartbeats. They are my guildies. They are my people! You can’t kick my people and expect me to continue to heal you! I would be (and have been) outraged by someone kicking my guildie. Whether it was low dps, gear, brief afk, I don’t care. You don’t kick my guildie unless my guildie’s a ninja or something (and if they are they’re unlikely to remain my guildie much longer).
Anyway, so now I’m in a muddle. Was my tank friend right in being upset that his “disloyal” guildies didn’t back him up when he got kicked from that TOC25 PuG? Or is it too much to ask for your guildmates to leave or risk being kicked from a perfectly good raid just to back you up?